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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    thrustmaster a 40€ a vita!

    anch'io giocavo con il logitech attack 3, ma il cambio è notevole, anche per immersività: poi 40€ sono un gioco scontato, via, non fare il tirchio!

    senza contare che nonostante la miriate di tasti, ho il tastierino numerico tutto bindato...
    Ama il tuo sogno se pur ti tormenta


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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da benvelor Visualizza Messaggio
    ... poi 40€ sono un gioco scontato, via, non fare il tirchio!
    su console semmai

    per me su PC è scontato quanto parte dai 15 euro in giù

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da Det. Bullock Visualizza Messaggio

    Prima o poi uscirà anche qui si spera su Amazon.de c'è solo il set completo in preordine:
    https://www.amazon.de/Joystick-TM-T1...ustmaster+twcs
    eccolo, previsto per il 30 settembre:

    https://www.amazon.it/Thrustmaster-T...keywords=hotas

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    in effetti, con una key, al deiùan si va sul trentello

    e io sono come te, avere arretrati conviene anche al portafoglio
    Ama il tuo sogno se pur ti tormenta


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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    Dimensioni navi e paragone con quelle di Space People




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    E' una mia impressione o questi ultimi CG vanno un po' a rilento?
    Quelli precedenti ricordo che erano finiti in molto meno tempo.
    "I pity the poor shades confined to the euclidean prison that is sanity." - Grant Morrison
    "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." - The Doctor
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    immagine rubata dal character creator:



    pubblicare un video ufficiale sui progressi fatti sembrava troppo presuntuoso.

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    Siccome tanto per ora il CG Colonia ce l'ho in sospeso (è quasi una settimana che non ci vado e sono ancora al top 10%, immagino che ormai siano i giocatori veterani coi Cutter a portarlo avanti) ho attaccato un altro serbatotio di carburante e dopo aver pistolato un po' con gli ingegneri mi sono buttato nel vuoto a scansionare sistemi per il CG della federazione.
    Sono andato sotto solo un paio di gironi fa ma un viaggio è bastato a riportarmi al top 10%, sembra che non molta gente stia partecipando di recente.
    "I pity the poor shades confined to the euclidean prison that is sanity." - Grant Morrison
    "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." - The Doctor
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    Io invece dopo 5 mesi sono ancora nel vuoto ho raggiunto sag a a giugno e ora mi trovo a circa 23k ly dalla bolla, parte opposta della galassia ma anche piuttosto lontando dal beagle point. E' ora di cominciare a tornare indietro per la 2.2

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da Det. Bullock Visualizza Messaggio
    E' una mia impressione o questi ultimi CG vanno un po' a rilento?
    Quelli precedenti ricordo che erano finiti in molto meno tempo.
    Secondo me è perchè in molti stan giocando la beta


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    Il CG a Love Orbital mi pare proceda abbastanza spedito

    Inviato dal mio MotoG3 utilizzando Tapatalk

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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    Ultima modifica di ZioYuri78R; 27-09-16 alle 17:41


    Morte alla limonata!

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    Finalmente, cavolo, trovare il punto giusto per i tip off non era impossibile ma era comunque una seccatura senza la bussola in orbita.

    EDIT

    Per chi ha un joystick singolo e vuole passare a un HOTAS senza spendere troppo:
    https://www.amazon.it/Thrustmaster-T.../dp/B01H6KXGDO
    Ultima modifica di Det. Bullock; 28-09-16 alle 02:22
    "I pity the poor shades confined to the euclidean prison that is sanity." - Grant Morrison
    "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff." - The Doctor
    La configurazione del mio PC.

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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    Beta 2.2 Update 4

    https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...a-2-2-Update-4



    2.2 Beta 4 Change Log

    Stability Fixes

    - Fixed crash in the ship launched fighter tutorial
    - Fixed crash in the SRV tutorial
    - Fixed soft-lock on station services home screen if you spam click the quick refuel/reload/repair button
    - Fixed the game locking up when editing/deleting a bookmark
    - Fixed crash when finishing VR experience tutorial
    - Trying to switch into a retrieved fighter crashes the game fixed
    - Fixed an occasional crash in open vr on startup. Prevent presenting when SDK Rendering isn't setup
    - Fixed CQC CTF assert when picking up a flag after previously dropping a flag
    - Fixed an error in terrain cube sphere mapping
    - Prevent attempting to eject a cargo unit that is already queued for ejection
    - Livery modules are no longer added to the list of newly purchased modules
    - Don't try to access control bindings while they're loading

    General Fixes & Tweaks

    - Basic flight tutorial, change the way we detect pitch/roll/yaw input so that it also works with mouse controls
    - Updated the ship throttle tip in basic flight tutorial to also show throttle axis if present
    - Fixed sub targets panel not updating when scanning beacons (nav beacons, tourist beacons etc)
    - Fixed headlook not working in station menu
    - Fixed missing icon on Science & Research contact screen
    - Preparation ethos icon is truncated in Powerplay menu fixed
    - Removed VR Missions on platforms that don't support VR
    - Audio: Fixed some missing audio in the tutorials
    - Various text fixes
    - Latest translation batch added

    Passengers

    - Improved the UI flow when selecting which cabin to place your passengers in
    - Plugged in Head of State passengers to the passenger sightseeing missions
    - Passengers do not eject themselves after failing a bulk mission until you discard the mission from your Transactions tab fixed
    - When you abandon a mission and the passengers eject themselves, the message you receive should now appear in your inbox
    - NPC chatter/ AI behaviour seems incorrect during PassengerVIP CEO kill chance wrinkle fixed
    - Passenger satisfaction now decreases when taking hull damage if they don't react well to danger
    - Updated the values, meaning passengers will get more disgruntled at lower ranks, but remain the same amount as before at higher ranks
    - Chief medical officer still expects goods wrinkle after declining it fixed
    - Updated the sightseeing kill wrinkle, to have its own hand in state - allowing you to continue to kill the spawned enemies if you want to
    - Allow sightseeing to be completed even if a cargo wrinkle is active
    - Long distance expedition rewards shouldn't increase with each jump
    - Abandoning a long distance expedition should now impact faction reputation
    - Make pods the most important thing when working out if we can take passengers
    - Make passenger cabins replicate properly
    - Ensure that a new destination wrinkle doesn't send you to the port you've just come from
    - Updated the passenger quantity for the luxury cabin - can now support 8 passengers
    - Removed the destination marker for the visit tourist location wrinkle
    - Fixed not getting an inbox message about returning to the nearest dock after abandoning a passenger mission
    - Updated the states to prevent it sticking on disgruntled checks
    - Cannot accept PassengerStowaway mission message when there is one cabin remaining fixed
    - Passenger cabins in the inventory panel now match the surrounding styling better
    - If a tourist beacon is planetary, stop non-horizons people from accepting it
    - After dying with passengers on board and returning to the game there is no message saying that your passengers ejected from the ship fixed
    - Updated the passenger VIP templates with the state change effects for new destination system

    Fighters

    - Increased boost speed of all fighters
    - Rebalanced default speed for some fighters to make them inline with their original design (the Empire Fighter was too fast compared to the others)
    - Increased DPS of fighter weapons by 12.5%
    - Increased fighter production capability of the size 7 hanger module
    - Fixed fuel gauge disappearing when switching back to mothership
    - Missing avatar faces on the orders panel fixed
    - NPC crew do not have appropriate backgrounds when in your ship or in the fighter fixed
    - Added warnings why can't a player deploy a fighter
    - Move "Orders" to the top of the menu when interacting with AI fighters/main ship
    - Fighter descriptions hooked up
    - Able to issue orders using both fighters in the role panel even though only one is deployed fixed
    - After hiring, crew sometimes displays negative numbers fixed
    - Balance displayed in the Crew Lounge is incorrect fixed
    - AI Crew don't appear to be gaining any xp from combat in fighters fixed
    - Fixed logic error for allowing non horizons crew in to the crew lounge to fire crew they might have hired when they had horizons
    - Added default numpad keys for the new order bindings to each control scheme
    - Added in better descriptions for the fighter specific stats
    - Re-launching fighters resets ammo and pip setup fixed
    - Fixed radar not showing hostiles/allies correctly when switching vessel in a conflict zone
    - Helm 'Details' tab should go to ship description
    - Audio: Velocity of the ship launched fighter is now set to the same as long as the fighter stow interface is not active
    - Audio: Fixed "self" explosions to be triggered to ship launched fighters

    Missions

    - Ensure that a new destination wrinkle doesn't send you to the port you've just come from
    - Fix the calculation of dimensions for portraits in non 16:9 resolutions
    - Removed two examples of settlements metadata giving missions the idea that they can be used as skimmer massacre targets
    - Switched from MM: SS time format to MMm SSs format for inbox messages detailing a remaining duration for part of the mission. This format avoids the ambiguity from a string like 20:30 (is it 20 minutes, or twenty hours?)
    - Updated massacre skimmer missions to reference the skimmer system

    Weapons

    - ECM balance tweaks: guided missiles and torpedos hit by an ECM charge will now gain a major drunk effect if they did not already have it, causing them to veer off target most of the time. Technically you can still be struck, but previously ECM'ed torpedos would maintain an almost straight trajectory which for ships unable to dodge would mean they got hit anyway
    - Dedicated keybinding for ECM. CM do not have to be in a fire group, holding this down will charge the first ECM module on your ship that is ready to go, and releasing will fire it
    - Experimental balance change reworking how heat weapons function, similar to our earlier proposal but adjusted with player feedback. Aim of the changes:
    - Thermal diminishing returns cut in much harder, previously they would start at 60% and prevent you going over 190%, whereas they will now start at 65% and prevent you going over 95% (down from 80%/120% in our earlier proposal). This means that heat from external attacks alone can never cause module or hull damage
    - The heat effects of Thermal Shock are doubled
    - The heat effects of Thermal Cascade are 25% more than they are on live (the previous beta heat nerf is being reversed, and then a small buff), combined with a slight nerf to PackHounds to stop them being so superior to other missiles
    The goal here is for heat not to be a primary damage mechanism, but be there to punish your target for doing things that generate heat spikes such as SCBs, boosting or firing the hotter weapons. We also want to make it so that it is never worthwhile to stack a lot of heat weapons together: You will get the new full effect from a smaller number of weapons than before, but it can never get anywhere near as deadly and stacking more weapons beyond that point is counterproductive
    - Drop the damage of packhound missiles slightly, from 9 per missile to 7.5. They're doing slightly more damage than we wanted given their relative immunity to point defences, and dwarfing normal missile launchers

    Ships

    - Increased size of internal fuel tank for Beluga and Orca
    - Enlarged hit locations on Imperial Fighter so its weapons can take damage
    - F63 Condor and Eagle side panels obscured by canopy geometry
    - Type 7 Bobbleheads slot 1 and 10 are incorrectly rotated fixed
    - Equipped bobbleheads in the Beluga Liner clip into pieces of the GUI fixed
    - Tweak up the minimum speed before taking damage when landing on a planet's surface
    - Keelback landing gear floating above ground when landing on planet fixed
    - Fixed zfighting issues with loading screen for the Federation Fighter
    - Adjusted hitcheck for Diamondback Explorer
    - Fixes for hanger cameras and decal slots on the imperial Eagle
    - Fixed Decal issues on the Cobra MKIV
    - Fixed fuel scoop UI position for Fed Assault Ship, Corvette, Imperial Courier, Fed Dropship, Fed Gunship, and Vulture
    - Fixed some holes in the mesh for Fed Gunship, Assault Ship and Dropship
    - Fixed smoothing group issues on the Type 7
    - Taipan's left decal no longer missing
    - Taipan fighter decals pass to make them more legible
    - Added slight improvements to how accurately ships are snap to the planet's surface
    - Audio: Fixed some issues with Imperial Fighter
    - Audio: Beluga audio fixes
    - Audio: Reduced the volume of the Taipan and Imperial Fighter boosts
    - Audio: Added in another layer to the Taipan orientation sounds to give them more weight at lower speeds
    - Adjusted mix of the landar/spacedar transition noise. Made a bit softer

    SRV

    - SRV Bay - Scarab does not show initial vehicle specs despite being selected
    - Audio: Added the oxygen mask sounds to the SRV
    - Audio: Tweaks to wavescanner so not so overwhelming at organics locations
    - Audio: Added spread to wavescanner attenuation shareset, so doesnt pan as harshly

    Environment

    - Fixed crash site collision on debris
    - Fixed the buggy pad in mining object layer, so it snaps to position only, not orientation
    - Added fade to organic seed decals to fix cut off on extreme slopes
    - Added some more variety to mysterious places
    - Fixed some misaligned tunnels in an installation
    - Fixed a mysterious thing finding it's way into a cargo canister when being ejected
    - Fixed chatter table for trespass zone
    - Added depth prepass on fumaroles/ice rocks (slight optimisation)
    - Stellar schematics updated for White dWarf, Black Hole, Neutron Star
    - Ice Rocks - sublayer tiling rate reduced
    - Tunnel Texture in some Installations has a LOD issue with tunnel walls fixed
    - Audio: Rebalanced organics audio mix
    - Audio: Mix tweaks to crystal sinewave scanner element as it was dominating the mix when in a fumarole field
    - Audio: Changes to organics collisions to improve ratio of collision sound triggering
    - Audio: Fix for radio chatter not triggering near settlements
    - Audio: Some rebalancing for settlement security voice 3 to be clearer on stereo mix
    - Audio: Set correct compression settings on Hyperspace stress noises
    - Audio: Tweaked micro resource collect GUI sounds

    Stations/Ports

    - Typo when selecting primary/secondary economy in station generation was changing station types
    - Fixed a missing access panel on some of the large landing pads, which allowed you to see through the pad at a certain distance
    - Audio: Various ATC fixes

    Outfitting/Shipyard

    - A module category will appear in the wrong place on the Store Multiple menu if no modules of that type are equipped fixed
    - Shipyard - B button doesn't work on sell ship popup fixed
    - Stop clearing the remote ships list when we list the ships available at this station - this stops the remote ships list sometimes being cleared when we update
    - Added some additional code to track whether a ship is being delivered "here" to control the local ship tab highlighting
    - Accessing the livery via the station home screen no longer skips the 'which vehicle' step (if applicable)
    - Fixed failing to go back behaviour when using the livery link from homes screen
    - Fixed missing blurred background when picking which vehicle to livery
    - Overhanging buttons and items in outfitting list fixed
    - Changed outfitting filter options to use vectors instead of bitmaps to try to improve clarity
    - First module highlighted statistics missing if purchasing to an empty slot fixed
    - Removed the swap module option while previewing a fighter or an SRV as the web support is currently not available. This shouldn't cause any issues as the only swappable modules on fighters and SRVs are decal slots
    - Updated icons and animation for ship transfer to improve clarity and remove WIP items
    - Fixed focusing issues in the modifications screen in outfitting
    - Fixed several issues with ship transfer timers
    - Updated outfitting button icons to improve clarity

    Controls

    - Fighter order control bindings no longer visible on non Season 2 clients
    - Xbox One: Fixed fighter order control bindings not appearing

    Star Jets

    - The FSD boost level now uses the larger effect out of synthesis and jet cone supercharge, rather than always using the latter if set
    - FSD supercharge status now persists between sessions rather than being wiped on game load
    - Added a random initial rotation to stellar jet billboards
    - Re-enable jets for OSX

    Rendering

    - Prevent luminosity class VI sub-dwarf protostars selecting a white dwarf as it's nearest visual class (Please note: a side effect of this is that various TTauri or Herbig protostars will change from white to red/purple. This is not a bug, and is a slightly better representation of their actual temperatures)
    - Fixed light cones disappearing when you got behind the source

    Player Journal

    - Suppress heat warning event if docked
    - Tweaks to the “Location” event
    - Added a mechanism to import star system names into visited stars cache
    - Include Powerplay info in the FSDJump and Location events
    - Include PowerplayOrigin in CargoDumped event if relevant



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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    ma la roadmap per il planetary landing c'è? Per horizons penso abbiamo finito con i geyser, ma dalla prossima season mi aspetto tanto, che questo è stato veramente solo l'antipastino

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    Il planetary landing arriverà solo dopo il multicrew e la possibilità di camminare dentro la nave, e già solo per queste due cose penso ci sarà da aspettare parecchio (almeno il multicrew dovrebbe rientrare in horizon). Tutto quello che hanno aggiunto finora (compresa quest'ultima cosa dei passeggeri) si può riassumere semplicemente come cambiamenti dell'UI e nuove missioni. Penso che prima di 2-3 anni non se ne parla, probabilmente sarà l'ultimo DLC

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    Il planetary landing arriverà solo dopo il multicrew e la possibilità di camminare dentro la nave, e già solo per queste due cose penso ci sarà da aspettare parecchio (almeno il multicrew dovrebbe rientrare in horizon). Tutto quello che hanno aggiunto finora (compresa quest'ultima cosa dei passeggeri) si può riassumere semplicemente come cambiamenti dell'UI e nuove missioni. Penso che prima di 2-3 anni non se ne parla, probabilmente sarà l'ultimo DLC
    hm il piano di dlc non era decennale?

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    hm il piano di dlc non era decennale?
    Infatti mica hanno finito con horizon

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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    Vabbé non prendo in considerazione quella roadmap che era stata postata tempo fa che includeva l'editor della galassa fra 20 anni e robe così

    considerando i passetti microscopici che sono stati fatti finora da quando è uscito, direi che 3 anni per l'atterraggio sui pianeti con atmosfera è pure estremamente ottimistico

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    Vabbé non prendo in considerazione quella roadmap che era stata postata tempo fa che includeva l'editor della galassa fra 20 anni e robe così

    considerando i passetti microscopici che sono stati fatti finora da quando è uscito, direi che 3 anni per l'atterraggio sui pianeti con atmosfera è pure estremamente ottimistico
    io non la penso così, anzi, trovo il developement del gioco molto costante e rispettoso dei tempi.

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    Re: Elite Dangerous | Horizons is out

    È vero, rispettano gli obiettivi prefissati, il problema è che quando vengono implementati sono sempre a metà. Ad esempio, l'unico elemento veramente nuovo di Horizon finora è stato l'atterraggio sui pianeti. Ma fino a engineers anche quello era solo un vagare fine a se stesso visto che non c'era nulla da fare una volta a terra. Poi esce engineers, ma senza la possibilità di chiamare le tue navi da un sistema all'altro puoi fare pochissimo: spesso la nave su cui vorresti montare gli upgrade nuovi non è la stessa con cui puoi farmare le risorse necessarie, quindi devi farti 300 anni luce avanti e indietro con la base dell'engineer con una nave da combattimento che salta 12 ly se va bene.

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