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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da Biocane Visualizza Messaggio
    intanto prendetevi fifa 2021 versione old gen, piu' le altre versioni ottimizzate col culo ahahahaha!
    Vabbè quelli di EA sono microcefali che si nutrono delle microtransazioni del FUT.

    Poi FIFA fa cagare da diversi anni, forse da sempre

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    Perché una delle due ha l'altro 10% dei giochi non multi.

    Io gioco principalmente al computer ormai, se dovessi affiancare una console quella Microsoft sarebbe un doppione inutile si è ficcata lei in questa situazione per cui l'Xbox è ormai un PC dedicato al gioco per chi non può permettersi un PC normale abbastanza potente da fare girare i giochi "novità".
    ma infatti è cosi': serve a una sega una one se hai il pc performante, con serie x sara' lo stesso, solo che a sto giro potrebbero contendersi anche il mercato console tout court dato che i volponi di Sony hanno deciso di realizzare una console meno performante al lancio e probabilmente non meno costosa: guardando la storia delle ultime 2 gen, ha sempre vinto chi è partita con potenza maggiore e a costi minori ( e grazie...) inutilmente azzardata la scelta di Sony con ps5

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    Poi FIFA fa cagare da diversi anni, forse da sempre
    quello senz'altro, ma a molti piace

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    quello senz'altro, ma a molti piace
    Ricordo ancora lo stupore per l'estrema giocabilità di iss pro 98, a confronto fifa 99 era un pezzo di legno

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    Ricordo ancora lo stupore per l'estrema giocabilità di iss pro 98, a confronto fifa 99 era un pezzo di legno
    beh poi in quegli anni fifa era ancora peggio, mi pare che la "rinascita", o meglio, la decenza diciamo, sia iniziata dal fifa 2007, anno in cui avevano assunto alcuni del kcet

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    beh poi in quegli anni fifa era ancora peggio, mi pare che la "rinascita", o meglio, la decenza diciamo, sia iniziata dal fifa 2007, anno in cui avevano assunto alcuni del kcet
    Più che altro coincise con la crisi esistenziale di PES sulla "nuova" gen

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    a dimostrare l'arretratezza dei giappi

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    piccolo ot, stavo guardando le schede grafiche, le Nvidia costano tantissimo, però guardavo un confronto tra 2080 e 5700 e mi pare siano uguali, solo che la Nvidia costa il doppio. perché?
    Non sono uguali, la 2080 spinge di più. La 5700 è a livelli di una 2070 super. Però sì, Nvidia si fa pagare la tassa ray tracing
    Ultima modifica di Reeko; 22-06-20 alle 15:11

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    piccolo ot, stavo guardando le schede grafiche, le Nvidia costano tantissimo, però guardavo un confronto tra 2080 e 5700 e mi pare siano uguali, solo che la Nvidia costa il doppio. perché?
    the way it's meant to be payed

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    io sto giocando ad Actua Soccer (aka VR Soccer 96) su dosbox

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    Fifa98RTWC masterrace

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    troppo lento

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    Intanto Microsoft ha chiuso Mixer e fatto migrare tutti su Facebook Gaming

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    tra 6 mesi chiuderanno fb gaming e migreranno tutti su twitch?

    poi twitch verrà scalata da fb, microsoft e/o tencent?

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    tra 6 mesi chiuderanno fb gaming e migreranno tutti su twitch?

    poi twitch verrà scalata da fb, microsoft e/o tencent?
    Dubito, Twitch è di Amazon

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    ah già

    beh, sono arrivati tardi

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    vedo che fanno un gran parlare del nuovo crash bandicot sarà la killer application per il day one della play 5?

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    esce per ps4 e xboxone

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    Sony And PS5’s Performance In Japan Is Becoming A Grave Concern

    The Japanese market's story culminates in the most obvious outcome - but it was a long story to get here.

    https://gamingbolt.com/sony-and-ps5s...-grave-concern

    The newest sales reports from Japan paint a very stark and interesting picture – the top 30 software sales charts for the week are all Nintendo-only. There is not one single PlayStation game in the top 30. And while it goes without saying, it bears repeating – the top 30 is all Nintendo, while being one system, which is obviously the Switch. One system has total and absolute domination over the software sales in an entire major market. This has quite literally never happened since the heyday of the NES (the Family Computer, or Famicom, in Japan), and it paints a rather sordid picture for the state of Sony’s prospects in Japan going forward.

    This is honestly shocking, because even though Nintendo has traditionally done very well in Japan, Sony has always held the lion’s share of software sales in the country. [...]

    Sony has not only not made the appropriate efforts to cultivate the Japanese market, but has, in fact, done everything in its power to alienate and diminish it. From closing its local in-house Japanese development studio to imposing arbitrary content and administrative restrictions on Japanese games and game creators, to simply arrogantly throwing their weight around, with things as trivial as their reversal of the X and O button functions in the PlayStation UI and the lack of support extended to local developers, Sony has been burning bridges with a lot of Japanese developers and publishers for a while now.

    So between Sony’s consistent sidelining of Japan, and Nintendo finally getting a system out that checks all the boxes, what has happened? We have ended up with a situation where a PlayStation system is no longer the default, where at the very least a lot of the Japanese support it commanded as de facto exclusive (because, again, where else would those games go?) has become at least multiplatform (such as with long running PlayStation exclusive franchises such as Atelier), or outright exclusive (such as with Disgaea). We’ve ended up at a point where Japanese games sell more on Switch – not just in Japan, but worldwide now.

    None of this is really new information – but it does tie into a broader point about Nintendo and Sony’s contrasting strategies, and how they are indicative of the broader directions the two companies have chosen to take for their respective brands. Sony has decided to go all in on the high end, the prestige associated with the next blockbuster big budget release. Those are the games Sony chooses to highlight and associate with – which isn’t to say smaller fare isn’t allowed on PlayStation, of course, it is, but Sony really doesn’t care about any of that. This is why indie games have also suffered a similar fate as Japanese games on PlayStation – they are mostly sidelined, because Sony wants all eyes on the next big blockbuster, whether its own, or from its partners.

    And to be fair to Sony, those partners might well be indie or Japanese too. Sony does highlight Japanese games – such as Final Fantasy. Sony does highlight indie games – such as Kena: Bridge of Spirits. But all those games are carefully curated and selected high end “blockbusters”, even within their own niches, and so they get Sony’s approval. In contrast, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim can be an award winning, critically acclaimed game that is PS4 exclusive (not even on PC!), and Sony doesn’t even acknowledge it on its own store page.

    This is the reverse of Nintendo’s strategy. Nintendo has embraced the mid-tier of the market, that segment of the market that the transition to HD all but killed until the Switch gave it a thriving ecosystem to subsist in. This is why Nintendo has no trouble holding 30 minute long streams dedicated to nothing but indie games every few months. This is why low- to mid-tier Japanese games such as No More Heroes III or Rune Factory 5 get showcased in their presentations so frequently. Nintendo has zero trouble highlighting the high end, of course – when it has high end games coming to its system, it pushes them for all they’re worth. But to Nintendo, there is no distinction or difference between a high end game or a mid tier one, and as long as it’s an appealing game, it will get marketed by the company.

    What this has led to, in turn, is two very different software markets and ecosystems on PlayStation and Nintendo. Amusingly enough, they each seem to be imbibing what the other was like in the past. In the past, PlayStation was the platform that democratized game development, and highlighted and pushed everything. That’s why so many of these once small developers and franchises, such as Persona, grew on PlayStation platforms to begin with. Nintendo was known to highlight a “premium software” strategy, where carefully curated hits, its own as well as from select third party partners, were what were marketed. This led to two very different software markets and ecosystems across the platforms – PlayStation owners were more willing to buy out different kinds of software, rather than just the next big hit, and a lot of smaller games and developers saw massive success on there as a result. On the other hand, Nintendo owners were likely to just wait for the next big hit – almost always just a Nintendo game, but sometime a carefully selected third party title too, whether it be Star Wars: Rogue Squadron on the N64 or Resident Evil 4 on the GameCube.

    Right now, we’re seeing the opposite of that. Sony has cultivated the blockbuster audience – the audience waiting for the next big hit from Sony, or the next major AAA blockbuster drop. This audience is focused on the latest and greatest, and as a result, a lot of it isn’t really too interested in picking up a random indie or Japanese game that looks like it was maybe cutting edge back on the PS2. And that’s obviously fine – there’s nothing wrong with preferring the cutting edge as a player, and there’s nothing wrong with Sony choosing to focus on that, given how successful they are right now.

    Nintendo players, on the other hand, thanks to Nintendo taking the initiative to actively cultivate an audience that is willing to try out a whole bunch of things – from the newest indie game that looks even slightly interesting to the newest Japanese game in a long running niche series – are now taking more risks, a broader approach with what they choose to buy. Obviously, given the Switch’s freakishly high software attach rates, they’re pretty happy with what they get when they experiment with these games too, leading to this kind of software support for the platform being further perpetuated, and customers being exposed to an even broader array of games. There’s a reason that where once, smaller games would become huge on PlayStation before maybe migrating over to other systems, the opposite is happening now – there’s a reason that Hollow Knight and Hades were big on Switch before they were on any other console, and that reason is that Nintendo has created an ecosystem where developers and customers alike are likelier to have an affinity for broad, varied software across the spectrum, rather than just sticking to the next big blockbuster.

    This kind of embrace of all games is why the Japanese industry has ultimately rallied around the Switch at this point, why the Switch is the Japanese games industry, in fact. Obviously, the PS5 will continue to get Japanese support – high end Japanese games such as Resident Evil can’t go anywhere else, and even with the smaller tier stuff, a lot of it will probably come to PlayStation because a multiplatform release strategy makes sense, with the ease of porting for modern systems. But more and more, we’re going to start to see the kind of ecosystem PlayStation cultivated over two decades to slowly migrate over to Nintendo going forward – assuming, obviously, that Nintendo doesn’t decide to pull a Nintendo and mess things up with the Switch successor.

    Nintendo is probably going to mess things up with the Switch successor.

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    Non spiega qual'è la spesa media per player tra le due console. Quanto spende in media il giocatore PlayStation e quanto quello Switch, per giochi/servizi/console?

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