Non è SARS, non è MERS, non è Influenza A - Coronavirus

[Major Sludgebucket (ABS)]

Quanta paura c’è di finire nelle maglie del sistema giudiziario civile e penale per la gestione sanitaria del coronavirus da parte dei Presidenti di Regione?

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[Skynight]

tranquilli entro la fine di aprile la situazione ritornerà sotto controllo!

Coronavirus, Cina: epidemia sarà sotto controllo entro fine aprile. Lo dichiara il virologo Zhong Nanshan

https://www.askanews.it/esteri/2020/...200227_083228/

[Zhuge]

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sicuro qualcuno aprirà un fascicolo

[benvelor]

tranquilli entro la fine di aprile la situazione ritornerà sotto controllo!



https://www.askanews.it/esteri/2020/...200227_083228/

è arrivarci, il problema

[BackFire]

sta cosa di codogno sta diventando addirittura ridicola. ma che è?

Febbre, sei stato a Codogno/Nord Italia?

>No, sticazzi, è l'influenza
>Sì, tampone, la morte nera, dagli all'untore

[Skynight]

Sta cosa di codogno e' seriamente ridicola.
Ci abito a 15 minuti. Non c'e' un cazzo di niente. E' un paesotto di provincia manco troppo evoluto, e pure esteticamente brutto. Comune insulso.
Ho avuto 2 ex di codogno e sistematicamente venivano a Piacenza, non dovevo farmi neanche lo sbatti per andarle a prendere.. venivano loro da me, proprio perche' stare la' non aveva senso.

Avrei capito Lodi, che ancora ancora per quanto piccolo qualcosa di interessante c'e'. Ma Codogno giuro che non lo sto capendo.

stanno facendo di Codogno il capro espiatorio da dove è partita l'epidemia come sta facendo il resto del mondo con l'Italia.

[Major Sludgebucket (ABS)]

Stocking up to prepare for a crisis isn’t ‘panic buying’. It’s actually a pretty rational choice

https://theconversation.com/stocking...-choice-132437

Recent days have brought reports of shoppers clearing out supermarket shelves from Wuhan and Hong Kong to Singapore and Milan in response to the spread of coronavirus. This behaviour is often described as “panic buying”.

However, the research shows that what’s going on here is nothing to do with panic. It’s a perfectly rational response to the situation.

Responding to disaster

Panic is one of the most misunderstood and misinterpreted of all human behaviours. The common, traditional understanding of the phenomenon is based on myth rather than reality.

If we understand panic as a state of uncontrollable fear that drives irrational behaviour, then how people usually respond in the face of disaster is something else entirely.

It’s a common belief that social law breaks down in a disaster. In the Hollywood version, chaos ensues and people act in illogical or unreasonable ways. The reality is very different.

Most research rejects the notion of a “disaster syndrome” described as a state of stunned shock or the occurrence of mass panic. In real disasters, people usually hold on to tenets of acceptable behaviour such as morality, loyalty, and respect for law and customs.

Planning ahead

If we are not seeing panic, what are we seeing? Unlike most animals, humans can perceive some future threats and prepare for them. In the case of something like the coronavirus, one important factor is the speed at which information can be shared around the world.

We see empty streets in Wuhan and other cities, where people are unable or unwilling to go outside for fear of contracting the virus. It is natural that we want to prepare for the perceived threat of similar disruption to our own communities.


Stocking up on food and other supplies helps people feel they have some level of control over events. It is a logical thought process: if the virus comes to your area, you want to be able to reduce your contact with others but also ensure you can survive that withdrawal period.

The greater the perceived threat, the stronger the reaction will be. At this stage it is believed that virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days, so people want to be prepared for at least 14 days of isolation.

A reasonable response

Preparing for a period of isolation is not the result of an extreme or irrational fear but rather an expression of our ingrained survival mechanisms. Historically, we had to protect ourselves from things such as harsh winters, failing crops or infectious diseases, without the aid of modern social institutions and technologies.

Stocking up on supplies is a valid response. It indicates citizens are not helplessly reacting to an outside circumstance but instead are thinking forward and planning for a possible situation.

While part of this response is due to the urge for self-reliance, it may also be a herd behaviour to some extent. A herd behaviour is one driven by imitating what others do – these behaviours can be a kind of conditional cooperation with others (for example, yawning).

Erring on the side of caution
A lot of uncertainty surrounds disasters, which means all advanced decisions are made on the basis of perceived threats not the actual disaster itself. Because of this uncertainty, people tend to overreact. We are generally risk-averse and aim to prepare for the worst-case scenario rather than the best.

When it comes to stocking up (or hoarding) a large private collection of goods to see us through a disaster, we don’t know how much we will need because we don’t know how long the event will last.

Accordingly, we tend to err on the side of caution and buy too much rather than too little. This is the natural response of a rational person who faces future uncertainty and seeks to guarantee their family’s survival.



The importance of emotions

Buying up large stores of supplies – which can lead to empty supermarket shelves – may seem like an irrational emotion response. But emotions are not irrational: they help us decide how to focus our attention.

Emotions allow individuals to attend to issues longer, to care about things harder and to show more resilience. They are an instinctual element of human behaviour that we often fail to include when trying to understand how people act.

Changes in individual behaviours can have large-scale implications. For example, a supermarket will normally organise its supply chain and stocks on the basis of average levels of consumption.

These systems do not handle big fluctuations in demand very well. So when demand surges – as it has in parts of China, Italy and elsewhere – the result is empty shelves.

Should I be stocking up?

In general Australians are not as well prepared for disaster as our kin across the ditch in New Zealand, who routinely have emergency kits in their homes due to the prevalence of earthquakes. However, the recent summer of fires, floods and disease should have given us all a wake-up call to be prepared.

You don’t need to rush out this very minute to buy several dozen tins of baked beans, but you might want to start assembling this kind of kit. Look through the ABC’s survival kit list, figure out what you already have and what you need to get.

Then you can make a shopping list and steadily gather the things you need. Done this way, it gives shops time to restock and won’t leave the shelves bare.

[raistlin85]

https://youtu.be/ArZcsUjSnWQ

Inviato dal mio SM-G965F utilizzando Tapatalk

[Skynight]

a proposito dei test per il coronavirus cinese, non vorrei avere il tremendo dubbio che il tampone desse dei falsi positivi confondendosi con altri tipi di infezioni virali, che non centrassero nulla con l'infezione in questione.

[Necronomicon]

Sta cosa di codogno e' seriamente ridicola.
Ci abito a 15 minuti. Non c'e' un cazzo di niente. E' un paesotto di provincia manco troppo evoluto, e pure esteticamente brutto. Comune insulso.
Ho avuto 2 ex di codogno e sistematicamente venivano a Piacenza, non dovevo farmi neanche lo sbatti per andarle a prendere.. venivano loro da me, proprio perche' stare la' non aveva senso.

Avrei capito Lodi, che ancora ancora per quanto piccolo qualcosa di interessante c'e'. Ma Codogno giuro che non lo sto capendo.

Due ex dallo stesso comune pure tu, utente random del forum.

È un unicum statistico, 'sto comune.

[Skynight]

Due ex dallo stesso comune pure tu, utente random del forum.

È un unicum statistico

e fu cosi che si scoprì che tutte le strade portavano a Codogno e non invece a Roma.

[Gilgamesh]

Stocking up to prepare for a crisis isn’t ‘panic buying’. It’s actually a pretty rational choice

https://theconversation.com/stocking...-choice-132437

Recent days have brought reports of shoppers clearing out supermarket shelves from Wuhan and Hong Kong to Singapore and Milan in response to the spread of coronavirus. This behaviour is often described as “panic buying”.

However, the research shows that what’s going on here is nothing to do with panic. It’s a perfectly rational response to the situation.

Responding to disaster

Panic is one of the most misunderstood and misinterpreted of all human behaviours. The common, traditional understanding of the phenomenon is based on myth rather than reality.

If we understand panic as a state of uncontrollable fear that drives irrational behaviour, then how people usually respond in the face of disaster is something else entirely.

It’s a common belief that social law breaks down in a disaster. In the Hollywood version, chaos ensues and people act in illogical or unreasonable ways. The reality is very different.

Most research rejects the notion of a “disaster syndrome” described as a state of stunned shock or the occurrence of mass panic. In real disasters, people usually hold on to tenets of acceptable behaviour such as morality, loyalty, and respect for law and customs.

Planning ahead

If we are not seeing panic, what are we seeing? Unlike most animals, humans can perceive some future threats and prepare for them. In the case of something like the coronavirus, one important factor is the speed at which information can be shared around the world.

We see empty streets in Wuhan and other cities, where people are unable or unwilling to go outside for fear of contracting the virus. It is natural that we want to prepare for the perceived threat of similar disruption to our own communities.


Stocking up on food and other supplies helps people feel they have some level of control over events. It is a logical thought process: if the virus comes to your area, you want to be able to reduce your contact with others but also ensure you can survive that withdrawal period.

The greater the perceived threat, the stronger the reaction will be. At this stage it is believed that virus has an incubation period of up to 14 days, so people want to be prepared for at least 14 days of isolation.

A reasonable response

Preparing for a period of isolation is not the result of an extreme or irrational fear but rather an expression of our ingrained survival mechanisms. Historically, we had to protect ourselves from things such as harsh winters, failing crops or infectious diseases, without the aid of modern social institutions and technologies.

Stocking up on supplies is a valid response. It indicates citizens are not helplessly reacting to an outside circumstance but instead are thinking forward and planning for a possible situation.

While part of this response is due to the urge for self-reliance, it may also be a herd behaviour to some extent. A herd behaviour is one driven by imitating what others do – these behaviours can be a kind of conditional cooperation with others (for example, yawning).

Erring on the side of caution
A lot of uncertainty surrounds disasters, which means all advanced decisions are made on the basis of perceived threats not the actual disaster itself. Because of this uncertainty, people tend to overreact. We are generally risk-averse and aim to prepare for the worst-case scenario rather than the best.

When it comes to stocking up (or hoarding) a large private collection of goods to see us through a disaster, we don’t know how much we will need because we don’t know how long the event will last.

Accordingly, we tend to err on the side of caution and buy too much rather than too little. This is the natural response of a rational person who faces future uncertainty and seeks to guarantee their family’s survival.



The importance of emotions

Buying up large stores of supplies – which can lead to empty supermarket shelves – may seem like an irrational emotion response. But emotions are not irrational: they help us decide how to focus our attention.

Emotions allow individuals to attend to issues longer, to care about things harder and to show more resilience. They are an instinctual element of human behaviour that we often fail to include when trying to understand how people act.

Changes in individual behaviours can have large-scale implications. For example, a supermarket will normally organise its supply chain and stocks on the basis of average levels of consumption.

These systems do not handle big fluctuations in demand very well. So when demand surges – as it has in parts of China, Italy and elsewhere – the result is empty shelves.

Should I be stocking up?

In general Australians are not as well prepared for disaster as our kin across the ditch in New Zealand, who routinely have emergency kits in their homes due to the prevalence of earthquakes. However, the recent summer of fires, floods and disease should have given us all a wake-up call to be prepared.

You don’t need to rush out this very minute to buy several dozen tins of baked beans, but you might want to start assembling this kind of kit. Look through the ABC’s survival kit list, figure out what you already have and what you need to get.

Then you can make a shopping list and steadily gather the things you need. Done this way, it gives shops time to restock and won’t leave the shelves bare.

Anche in Canada il governo ha dato indicazione di assaltare i supermercati. Sinceramente non capisco chi critica questa cosa. Se ti ammali e devi stare in quarantena 14 giorni pensi che vengano a portarti da mangiare? Devi chiedere a qualcuno di farti la spesa, esponendolo al rischio di infezione, oppure violare la quarantena tu stesso. Meglio fare scorta e stare tranquilli.

[alastor]

tranquilli entro la fine di aprile la situazione ritornerà sotto controllo!



https://www.askanews.it/esteri/2020/...200227_083228/

è quel che dice anche trump

[Necronomicon]

È tipo la cittadina di Buffy che aveva il buco per l'inferno per cui tutto succedeva là e non altrove

Io ho un paio di conoscenti che non sanno cosa accadrà ai concorsi nazionali che devono fare a Roma, se prenotare treni o meno. Il governo sospende nelle zone di quarantena o nelle regioni più esposte ma non a livello nazionale, quindi logica vorrebbe che non chiudessero migliaia di persone da tutta Italia nello stesso capannone, dato che non aprono nemmeno i cinema.
Alcuni hanno vociferato persino del controllo temperatura all'ingresso... Eccerto, così arriva una pioggia di ricorsi da parte di avvocati perché non fanno entrare con 37 di febbre

In pratica c'è un'emergenza che non è un'emergenza, si chiude e si apre, si sposta e non si sposta, tutto a livello locale, una confusione tremenda.

[Biocane]

Tutti gli stranieri ammalati sono stati a Milano, tutti gli italiani sono stati a Codogno, qualcosa non torna.

Per me si inventano le robe

[Skynight]

è quel che dice anche trump

stai a vedere che sotto, sotto per fine Aprile tireranno fuori un qualche vaccino sperimentale funzionante da far pagare agli altri paesi a peso d'oro.

intanto in Romania...

Primo caso di #coronavirus in #Romania. Trovato positivo ai test un paziente di Priguria, provincia di Gorj, nel sudovest del paese balcanico. Secondo quanto riportato dall'agenzia Mediafax, il "paziente zero" ha 20 anni e lavora presso un ristorante di proprieà di un italiano.

ma è stato in Italia oppure è colpa nostra di default perchè è italiano?

[Gilgamesh]

#forzamilano

[Smasher_Devourer]

Je suis Codogno

[Biocane]

È sciolta.

Eh magari, ho anche male di gola, occhi pesanti e per cause di forza maggiore devo prendere l aereo sabato, per venire al sud (no non a *****, vado ad appestare una regione li vicina). Che periodo di merda

[DigitalPayne]

Per me si inventano le robe

Ma i cani pure possono pendere il corona virus?